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The 7272wil Experience

Filed under: Status — Darran at 12:10 am on Saturday, May 30, 2009

Note: I eventually got a brand new Nokia 5800 replacement. Due to time constraints, I have not outlined the entire process. However, some of my experience is documented below. If you have any questions, feel free to post a comment or e-mail me.

It all began with the desire to experience the Nokia 5800. After months of reading about the 5800 online, I decided I should save some time and purchase one. I looked at Brick and Mortar shops, Australian online stores, Amazon.com and eBay. After about a week of contemplating over the appropriate channel to purchase the phone, the decision to purchase the Nokia 5800 on eBay was the result. I reviewed the sellers and decided upon 7272wil. Image purchase below

dispute

Bank Deposit from my bank to 7272wil:

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Despite selling Hong Kong phones and the difficulties with warranties surrounding HK phones, I felt comfortable ordering from 7272wil because his ad stated the following twice:

“We offer 1 year Australia local warranty:

Should your product experience problems, you no longer have to send it long way back to overseas with high postage cost and reduce risks item lost during transit but to our local office (not service agent) in Australia.”

Can be seen here:

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and here:

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The ad also states that the phone would come with a screen protector from Japan and it did not.

After three very exciting and enjoyable weeks of use, I bricked the 5800 while plugging it into a USB port. Prior to this, the phone was getting flaky with recognizing files in Explorer/Nautilus on the SD card when plugged in via USB. COMPLETELY BRICKED. Nothing will make this phone respond. It won’t even power on.

I decided I would e-mail 7272wil to RMA the phone.

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NO response. OK. Maybe he didn’t get the first message for some reason. A few days later, I messaged him again:

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A couple days went by and my friend suggested that I open up an eBay dispute. So I did. What do you know? Suprise! 7272wil had been ignoring my messages.

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7272wil responds to tell me to send my phone to Nokia. This is COMPLETELY different and in conflict with what and how his ad stated returns would be handled. I have tried to contact him twice since his initial response and he has remained quiet.

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7272wil: I have a $500 phone purchased from you. You stated in your ad that you would locally assist with the warranty. The ball is in your court.

-darranx18ew

I continued to message 7272wil using the eBay Resolution Centre and informed him of the post I had made on this blog (everything prior to this).

17 Comments »

Comment by kang

May 30, 2009 @ 1:18 am

That sucks. I hate those disputes where they play games with you. Unfortunately, it all happens all too often. Fight those punks to the end!

Comment by Darran

May 30, 2009 @ 1:57 am

Unfortunately, it is making me not want to use eBay anymore.

Comment by Brian

May 30, 2009 @ 5:26 pm

Despite numerous threads and warnings on Whilrpool etc, people STILL buy from Ebay and Online sellers who promise ‘local warranty’ on products where the price is way below locals bricks and mortar stores. These products DO NOT have local warranty, as they are all grey imports. If the price seems to good to be true, THEN IT IS.

Comment by A3Australia

June 3, 2009 @ 9:06 am

You should make a report to the ACMA. – http://www.acma.gov.au – Call their local office for details.

It is unlawful to sell or supply mobile phones that do not carry A-Tick logos and do not have a current A-Tick certification. Obviously overseas (Hong Kong etc.) market mobile phones do not have A-Tick.

Similarly, it is unlawful to sell or supply the chargers that accompany these phones. As these chargers do not have A-Tick (or C-Tick) electrical safety certification. This is usually handled by your state’s Fair Trading department. Perhaps also make a report to them.

Hopefully, you have made a full report to eBay? Pointing out the false “Item Location” and the lack of A-Tick etc. Listing electrical/electronic/communications items on eBay that do not carry A-Tick certification is a breach of the eBay Listing Rules ->

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/electronics.html

You can use this address to make a full and detailed report to Bay ->

aucswebhelp@ebay.com

Comment by Fred

June 8, 2009 @ 11:23 pm

Sorry to hear ur story, after reading that im seriously reconsidering my intentions to buy a new Nokia E75 from them, also, these buyers look extremely (suspiciously) similar:

7272wil
here2-buy
777-mobile

They all use similar layouts for descriptions and etc as well as very similar prices.

The feedback for all the E75′s sold thru all of them look positive at the moment so im at a point where making a decision is extremely hard, especially since i would prefer the HK imported version as it would support Chinese characters… im tearing my hair out…

Comment by Jason

February 10, 2010 @ 7:54 pm

I am in the middle of the exact same problem at the moment.

Some buttons on my phone stopped working and I want it fixed, however 7272wil has been ignoring my messages.

Darran do you have any advice on what I should do?
I have spoken with an eBay representative who has given me 7272wil’s phone number and asked me to call him directly.

Comment by Darran

February 10, 2010 @ 9:26 pm

If you can call him, that will probably help. If this doesn’t work let me know and I will give you a few other ideas.

Comment by jim

March 21, 2010 @ 8:14 pm

Is 7272wil the same company as tandomobile who both sell on ebay as I returned phone for warranty problem and there is no contact for any of these 2 only a PO Box 294 Strawberry Hills 2012 in Sydney does anyone have a contact other than this?

Comment by Darran

March 21, 2010 @ 8:20 pm

They could be. Sometimes these addresses are just Australian entities that allow foreign companies to have a local address. There was an address in Auckland that had nearly 1000 businesses registered to one address. I believe most of them were foreign. I am back in the States now, but if Australia has a business registry service you could use a reverse lookup by address and see how many business are using that as their mailing address. I believe it is probably the same guy using the same address with different ebay accounts in case one of the accounts gets tarnished. – Good luck brotha – let me know if I can help

Comment by jim

March 21, 2010 @ 11:04 pm

Thanks Darren Tried the business register with name and address and there not on it went to ebay and paypal..gave me these details

Customer Service Email: tandomobile@gmail.com
Customer Service Phone: + 61 98024738

tandomobile
Contact information for: pc Or
Email: sales@tandomobile.com
User ID: tandomobile
City: Mong Kok
State: default
Country: Hong Kong
Phone: 85223837663

T&O Telecom Mr OR
PO Box 294
Strawberry Hills NSW 2012
ph 0298024738

7272wil mobile bazaar
Contact : Mr. William Tong
Street : Po Box 294
City : Strawberry Hills
Province : Nsw
Country : Australia
Zip : 2012
Telephone : more…
Fax : more…
Website : http://www.7272wil.com

Comment by Chris

March 31, 2010 @ 3:26 am

I have a similar problem. I purchased a Samsung phone from 7272wil back in January. The purchase went smooth and the phone showed up promptly. I too was swayed by the “Local Warranty”.
My phone’s screen died within a week. I contacted 7272wil by email and organised to return the phone under warranty. It took nearly 8 weeks and continual emails, but I finally got my phone back today. Phone looks to work ok but they didn’t return any of the accessories, manuals etc. I had sent everything back with the phone.
I am now having trouble contacting 7272wil.

I managed to get the following contact details from Ebay.But nobody answers the phone, it just rings out.They have not answered my emails since the 18/3/10 either.

Contact Information for 7272wil
User ID: 7272wil
Name: Wai L Tong
Company:
City: Strawberry Hills
State: New South Wales
Country: Australia
Phone: 0280062086
Registered Since: Friday, 18 Mar, 2005 21:22:58 AEDST

Comment by Jeni

January 12, 2011 @ 2:24 am

I also received phone that has problems AND also, it arrived in an opened, unsealed box – despite their listing stating it was:
“Brand New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is applicable). Packaging should be the same as what is available in a retail store, unless the item was packaged by the manufacturer in non-retail packaging, such as an unprinted box or plastic bag. See the seller’s listing for full details.”
So, maybe it’s just a used phone? I don’t know. I queried it and they said that they have to open it to change it to English.. but that leaves me with no proof that it is a new phone. Just the fact that it has issues (several problems) makes me doubt.
They actually haven’t been too bad at communicating, but it is always brief (feels insufficient), as tho they are loathe to answer all my questions, or address the core issues I raised.
Anyway, we’ll see what happens. I keep insisting on new replacement or refund.
Clearly, it’s not all above board tho, wouldn’t u say?

Comment by Clinton

January 27, 2011 @ 5:27 am

I have returned my phone to strawberry hills also, still yet to here anything back as my phone had a screen problem. It has now been 2 months and the last 2 messages I have sent have been ignored,

Any advice for me please?

Comment by Darran

January 28, 2011 @ 9:25 pm

I would have kept your phone until you received a response. It will require persistence. Best of luck and please let me know if you need some help or have any questions.

Comment by BJ

May 24, 2011 @ 8:27 pm

Hi Darren,
I purchased my phone 10 month ago. The phone recently stopped working and now I would like to make a warrenty claim. Unfortunately, I cannot register a claim with ebay since ebay only allows to register complaints within a certain time period. I contacted 7272wil and he asked me to sent the phone to a post box in Sydney. According to Australia Post, the package has been waiting for pickup for 14 days now. 7272wil claims his staff is on annual leave. Any advice on how I should proceed?

Comment by Darran

May 25, 2011 @ 7:49 am

My main piece of advice would be to be persistent. Please let me know if you have any specific questions. Also, look over other comments on this post. Others have had different approaches than I did.

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